In this episode, Brian and Chris welcome the dynamic Annie Ray to discuss the true meaning of success in music education. Annie, the 2024 Grammy Music Educator of the Year, shares the profound philosophy behind her unique programs, including Crescendo Orchestra (for students with disabilities) and the viral Parent Orchestra (250+ participants). She passionately details why intentional teaching, building student independence, and prioritizing humanity over traditional assessment scores are the keys to avoiding burnout and building a resilient, lifelong community of musicians.

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