What happens when an event director spills his pre-event anxieties and post-event relief? When toilet paper becomes a weapon of war? When a dance weekend prioritizes joy over competition results and accidentally creates magic?Join Harold Baker for a raw, honest conversation with Hieu, the mastermind behind Swingsota 2025. This before-and-after interview captures the emotional rollercoaster of event directing - from pre-weekend nerves about venue changes to post-weekend euphoria about community success.The Journey Includes:Hieu's philosophy: "Maybe the results don't matter" and why that's revolutionaryThe move from children's theater to hotel and what that meant for the vibeHarold's severe FOMO about missing everything while filmingThe legendary Toilet Paper War of 2025 (historically accurate according to Harold)Why Swingsota aims to make people "refreshed, rejuvenated, and happy about dance again"The philosophy of prizes that aren't first place (including the coveted Altman prize)Harold's realization he needs camera people to follow him around Disney World styleThe Swingsota Philosophy:"Maybe the results don't matter"Creating space for people to be "joyful and let go"Building a weekend that people "didn't know they needed"Supporting everyone who "makes any sort of attempt"People Mentioned:Hieu - Swingsota Event Director and philosophical mastermind @swingesotaRobert Royston - Instagram: @robertroyston (Science piece participants puller-inner)Casey Margules - First place comedy gold winner @case_face_danceEvent References:Swingsota 2025 - The low-pressure, high-creativity dance weekend @swingesotaThe Open - The serious competition people need to decompress from @theopen_swingdancechampionshipsTAP - Post-Open decompression essential @tapwcsWarning: Contains honest discussions of event director anxiety, severe FOMO about missing Between Two Ferns, and historically questionable battleship tacticsHost: Harold Baker - Affinity Swing Instagram: @affinityswing

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