When we talk about sustainability, we often focus on what we’re buying—or not buying. But what if it’s really about something much deeper?In this episode, I’m joined by April Dickinson (@zerowastedork), a thoughtful voice in the zero waste space who thoughtfully challenges the consumer-driven model of sustainability. We talk about the evolution of zero waste living, the role of community care in climate action, and why economic degrowth might be the shift we need. From local connections to global systems, this is a conversation about finding joy, contributing to community, and staying grounded in what really matters.If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed or stuck trying to "get it right" in your sustainability journey, this episode offers a generous, honest alternative.TakeawaysWhy zero waste is about more than personal consumption.The problem of perfectionism and shame in sustainability spaces.Shifting from individual action to collective community care.The importance of local networks: community fridges, Buy Nothing groups, and mutual aid.Understanding who benefits and who is burdened by our systems.The concept of degrowth and why infinite growth isn’t sustainable.ResourcesBraiding Sweetgrass – Robin Wall KimmererDoughnut Economics - Kate RaworthViet Thanh Nguyen (learn more about Expansive Solidarity)Connect with AprilInstagramStorygraphSupport the showConnect With Me Website Newsletter Shop Instagram Support the Show Sustainable in the Suburbs is mixed and edited by Cardinal Studio If you enjoyed this episode, I’d love it if you followed the show, shared it with a friend, or left a rating and review. Every little bit helps more people find Sustainable in the Suburbs — and live a little greener.

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