How old is the phenomenon we call consciousness, and where did it come from? Was humanity always capable of metacognition -- the ability to think about thinking? If it wasn't, then how did our ancestors process the world around them, and how did they struggle with internal conflicts? Join Ben, Matt and Noel as they interview returning guest Joe McCormick about the strange theory of the bicameral mind. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comThey don't want you to read our book.: https://static.macmillan.com/static/fib/stuff-you-should-read/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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