In this powerful episode of The Stroke It Podcast, Jenny Townsend sits down with Dr. Zoe Shaw, licensed psychotherapist, author, speaker, and podcast host, to explore how shame sabotages relationships, how to heal through self-forgiveness, and what it means to prioritize connection in modern partnerships.Dr. Zoe opens up about her personal journey—placing a child for adoption as a teen, overcoming deep-seated shame, and rebuilding her life with vulnerability and truth. This episode provides practical strategies for managing complex shame, strengthening your marriage or partnership, and reclaiming your identity beyond motherhood, work, or external validation.Whether you're battling inner guilt, feeling stuck in your relationship, or simply seeking tools to show up more authentically—this episode is a must-listen.Chapters00:00:00 – Intro: Why Shame Sabotages Love  00:01:37 – Dr. Zoe’s Journey & Living with Complex Shame  00:08:15 – Shame vs. Guilt: What’s the Difference?  00:10:51 – Identifying Shame and Where It Hides  00:14:14 – The 3 Steps to Untangling Shame  00:19:23 – Forgiveness: Accountability Without Victim Blaming  00:22:48 – Why People Shame Others & Why It Doesn’t Work  00:26:55 – All-In Relationships: Balancing Love, Kids & Work  00:30:51 – “I Don’t Need You” & Emotional Independence  00:32:31 – Weekly Rituals to Reconnect (TX3 & Business Meetings)  00:37:19 – Rediscovering Yourself Beyond Motherhood  00:40:48 – Mom Guilt & Why Self-Care Isn’t Selfish  00:43:54 – One Action to Start Healing Today  🔗 Get Dr. Zoe’s book: Stronger in the Difficult Places🎧 Listen to her podcast: Stronger in the Difficult Places🌐 Connect with Dr. Zoe: https://drzoeshaw.com👥 Share this episode with a friend who needs encouragement today.Order Stroke It now at jennyaldaytownsend.com/book. Your order includes a signed copy, shipping and handling, and great Bonus items!Follow the Stroke It Guide on socials to stay connected and to get tips on how you too can get your STROKE on'!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennyaldaytownsend/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thestrokeitguide Check out more about Jenny Alday Townsend by visiting http://www.jennyaldaytownsend.com Did you know there are free downloads available on my website? Go to All Products | Jenny Alday Townsend and snag the 4 Ground Rules to Elevate your life. Planning your future? Develop your 1-3-5 and change your life path!

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