Where is God when we do not feel safe within our own minds? Hosts Katie and Sarah interview Anglican teacher, scholar, and poet Greg Jeffers about his journey of recovery from trauma-related OCD. Greg's candid sharing of how God met him in unfathomable pain offers hope and illumination to those who find themselves walking in darkness and in need of light.

Mentioned in this episode:

"Stop it!" - Bob Newhart video
The Sacredness of Questioning Everything book
Hurting with God: Learning to Lament with the Psalms book
The Psalm on the Cross: Learn More about Psalm 22, Christ’s Song of Sorrow and Victory article

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