In this episode of the State Secrets podcast, we're talking with Cipher Brief Expert, Nick Fishwick, a former senior member of the British Foreign Office, about his column in The Cipher Brief titled, "The Lights are Going Out all over Europe".  Fishwick is talking about Europe's relationship with Russia as it considers the possibility of war after Moscow's illegal invasion of Ukraine in 2022.  The decline of the relationship between Moscow and western governments which, until recently, still cooperated on issues ranging from counterterrorism to athletic competitions, is leading many in Europe to face the reality that war in Europe may be closer than they think. 

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