Clint and Wendy discussed the spiritual side of existence, their religious backgrounds, and their exploration of various theologies and philosophies, focusing on contemplative prayer, mysticism, and the life and works of Christian mystic Thomas Merton. They also explored the challenges of staying focused in a world full of distractions and the concept of obstacles in pursuing divine connection, examining the role of different practices such as meditation, centering prayer, and breathwork. The conversation concluded with a discussion on the concept of remembrance in Sufism and how it can create unity and deepen spiritual experiences.

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