In this episode, Ken Freire sits down with Andy Lehman, founder of Lehman Creations and host of Podcast Answers and Dudes and Dads, to pull back the curtain on how podcasters can actually grow their shows and turn them into profit machines. Andy shares the biggest mistakes new podcasters make, the importance of building a true community, and why engagement—not vanity metrics—is the real path to monetization. He breaks down his practical system for growing a podcast, building real fan relationships, and creating sustainable revenue streams without burning out.Resources Mentioned Lehman Creations - https://www.lehmancreations.com/ Podcast Answers - https://www.podcastanswers.com/ Dudes and Dads Podcast - https://dudesanddadspodcast.com/ Ecamm Live - https://www.ecamm.com/ Discord - https://discord.com/Timestamps 00:42 – Running two podcasts: business vs. passion projects 02:00 – The #1 mistake podcasters make when trying to grow 03:51 – Setting realistic expectations for audience growth 06:06 – Why your first episodes will be terrible (and that’s okay) 07:30 – Andy’s system for growing from 7 to 1,000 listeners 08:26 – The power of building community and engaging fans 09:56 – Long-form vs. short-form platforms for growth 12:10 – Leveraging Instagram Lives to expand reach 14:15 – When and how to funnel listeners into a community 16:32 – Building true fans through authentic DMs and voice notes 19:22 – How podcasts actually generate profit (beyond ads) 21:16 – Value-for-value model: time, talent, and treasure 23:40 – Using your podcast as your best ad for your services 24:26 – Growing your podcast through Facebook groups without spamming 28:06 – Mindset shifts to scale without burning out 29:39 – Creating true fans who evangelize and contribute back 32:18 – Where to connect with Andy and get podcast help

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