This episode starts with an introduction to the new internets, focusing on P2P and Offline-First communication protocols. It then follows with an interview with some of the team-members of the Scuttlebutt project, Andre Staltz (@staltz) and Anders (@Arj) as well as @zelf who reflect on their experiences in NGI Pointer. The end of the podcasts includes a book review of Gideon the Ninth by Tamsyn Muir.

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