Sara talks to her longtime friend Giulia Rozzi, a comedian, writer, actress, director and first-generation American. They talk about how sociology influences Giulia's comedy, socially distant protesting while pregnant, summoning Italian lady energy when criticizing racist police (when Karen becomes Karina), whiteness as a construct, and continuing to learn (and unlearn). Also, Sara takes you through a simple relaxation exercise. This podcast is funded by Patreon.com/SaraBenincasa. Thanks to all subscribers and supporters.

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