In this heartfelt episode of Getting Through the Tough Stuff, Mel Hiett is joined by special guests Kenya Ulmer and her daughter, Sydney, for a powerful conversation about navigating life’s hardest seasons. Kenya shares what the wilderness looks and feels like, how to recognize when you’re in it, and what it means to trust God when nothing makes sense. Together, they explore how God speaks in the quiet and the chaos, and how we can help our children listen for His voice too. Whether you’re deep in your own wilderness or just stepping out of it, this episode offers encouragement, wisdom, and hope for every single mom walking through uncertain times.

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