In this episode, Tony and Lawrence speak with Carolyn Cleveland, founder of C&C Empathy Training Ltd (CCET). With a background in counselling and psychology (and shaped by deeply personal experiences) Carolyn brings a powerful, human-centred approach to empathy, resilience, and emotional awareness.  In the episode we explore how empathy can be used genuinely in simulation, whether it is possible to measure empathy and how we can use empathy to become better educators.Please find a link to Carolyn's website below:https://www.empathytrainingltd.co.uk/

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