Richard Walsh and Donovan Ryckis discuss the challenges businesses face with health care claims and managing employer-sponsored plans. Donovan shares his journey in the health care industry, highlighting broker issues and the complexities for business owners. They explore strategies to reduce health care claims, including aligning planning internally and externally, understanding cost variations in medical procedures, and negotiating insurance. The conversation delves into incentivizing employees through direct primary care benefits and the potential impacts of AI in healthcare. Richard emphasizes the importance of continuous learning and fiduciary responsibilities. The episode concludes with Donovan's documentary and how to connect with him.

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