The cousins talk about Hacks: what it gets right about ambition, aging out loud, and being “on” 24/7. We dig into Deborah Vance (Jean Smart) and her chaotic partner-in-words Ava, the work-family orbit of Marcus, Jimmy, and Kayla, and the messy line between mentorship, power, and love. If you care about women headlining at midlife, career reinvention, and why chosen family sometimes shows up with an HR complaint, this one’s for you.

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