In part 2 of our conversation, some of the Too Early for Birds family, Ngartia, Abu, Mercy and Mugambi, talk more about the role gender, language and joy played in creating this three-hour epic story of one of Kenya's native sons and heroes, Tom Mboya. We talk Jay-Z, we cry, we laugh and by the end - they offer us hope for the future and clear direction on how to support the arts and make sure these stories keep getting told. Thank you TEFB for letting me fangirl for 2hours with you! This episode was edited by Janet Onyango of J Communications (https://www.jcommunications.online/) and engineered by Bukachi Akatsa of BTSU studios ([email protected]). The Up/Root jingle is performed and written by my daughter, Selah!

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