Our panelists, Dr. Francois Venter, Thabang Pooe, Shaita Goga, and Umunyana Rugege are in conversation with Ferial Haffajee about what we can learn from the HIV epidemic and crises like the Limpopo Textbook Case and Life Esidimeni to help us overcome the challenges we face with Covid19. The panel also discusses a possible future where the country is living with Covid19 for the foreseeable future. They debate the impact on the economy and the role that civil society can plan to ensure that human rights are upheld.   

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