What does it take to build a thriving injury law firm while transforming traditional roles into revenue-generating opportunities? In this episode of Second in Command podcast, Cameron Herold talks with John Nachazel, COO of the Mike Morse Law Firm, about his role in scaling the business from 24 to 210 employees. John shares how his data-driven approach, leadership mindset, and strong CEO-COO relationship have been instrumental in achieving exponential growth. John and Cameron delve into the value of the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS), the importance of fostering respect between the CEO and COO, and how John’s approach to leveraging data and problem-solving has created sustainable success. Whether it’s aligning team goals, managing leading versus lagging indicators, or finding creative ways to optimize expenses, this episode offers invaluable insights for anyone in a leadership role. Enjoy!In This Episode You'll Learn:How to foster a respectful and effective CEO-COO relationship [10:10]Why focusing on leading indicators can shape better business outcomes [8:11]The power of being the “second best” at every role as a COO [6:04]How turning expense areas into profit centers can revolutionize your business [42:15]Why embracing EOS principles can bring clarity and alignment to your team [31:32]And much more...Resources:Connect with John: LinkedInGet John’s book:  Fireproof: A Five-Step Model to Take Your Law Firm from Unpredictable to Wildly Profitable Important LinksConnect with Cameron: Website | LinkedInExplore the COO Alliance - The World’s Leading Community for Seconds in CommandGet Cameron’s book: Second in Command: Unleash the Power of Your COO BookTake Cameron’s leadership course: Invest In Your Leaders Online Course (Use promo code PODCAST10 before the end of the month for 10% off)Chat or video call with AI Cameron via Delphi

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