What does it take to be safe from hackers and malware? In this “myth-busting” episode, Jeff is joined by Hugo Sanchez, co-founder, and CEO of rThreat, a cybersecurity firm on a mission to revolutionize the industry. Hugo Sanchez was determined to make a better life for himself, so he moved to Seattle and joined a technology company. There, he found his passion for helping people bring solutions and he started developing programs for business development. With the help of his friend, Hugo started a project and created a platform that enables defense teams to become attackers within an organization. Hugo's journey has been exciting, and he is helping the industry shift towards a zero-trust model and continuously validating and training analysts. He believes that the only way to become resilient is to teach people how to attack and defendKey Takeaways00:05:27 - From Mexico to the US: The culture shock and finding his passion in tech00:07:58  - Getting into the moment and the exciting journey with rThreat00:10:20 - Enabling key basic engineers to become attackers00:13:15 - Getting good attention from the private and the public sector00:15:16 - Well-organized attackers and ransomware00:20:53 - SaaS adoption into cybersecurity00:24:01 - Becoming agile and smart to win the battle00:25:41 - Tactics, techniques, and procedures is a must 00:27:27 - Collaboration with universities and creating programs00:30:48 - Lessons learned as a SaaS founder in the  cybersecurity space00:32:53 - The benefits of Investing time in team and engineers 00:37:24 - The more you spend, the safer you are versus the more we spend in training, the safer you will be.00:41:04 - Friends are your mentors tooTweetable Quotes“But what I can do is enable my team or my humans to become faster. Agile and smarter. And that's the only way we can fight this battle.” 00:24: 09 -Hugo Sanchez“I think every SaaS founder has experienced that the projection is always wrong and things take longer and are more expensive than you ever think they will be.” 00:32:42 -Jeff Mains“And there's no such a thing as a vision without the team and the team, we have to invest and rely on them. And today, what we have it's because of them and we are a very small, humble team but they're very smart. It's amazing.” 00:34:00 -Hugo Sanchez“It's just that the big one is the more you spend, the safer you are. But it's in regards to technology and I think it could be applied if we more we spend in training, the safer you will be.” 00:37:32 -Hugo Sanchez“And if you want to do it perfectly, it doesn't exist like perfectionism. It's just an ideological thing. And I think that was rounding every single mentor, manager, and friend because a the end, they're also your mentors.” 00:41:45 -Hugo SanchezSaaS Leadership LessonsTraining your team to become attackers - Isolating the malware from 5 minutes to 30 seconds and in that way, they will become resilient, effective, and sharp.Strong product with a low entry cost with SaaS flexibility and bootstrappingThe significance of investing and relying on your teamThe more you spend on training, the safer you will bePerfectionism doesn’t exist but you have to do it again and again until it’s up to your standardGuest ResourcesHugo Sanchez (Linkedin): https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugolamakinarThreat (Website): https://rthreat.net/team-2/rThreat (Linkedin):

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