Butch has a chat with his friend and theologian, Muoki Musau, one of the co-hosts of the "Growing Pains" podcast. The topic of the day is masculinity and fatherhood. What does it mean to be a man in the modern age. One of the focuses is of course how it's looked at generationally, as Butch being a Generation X guy looks at it differently than the Millennials of the world. We also connected it to Muoki's discussions on Growing Pains about the meaning of "The American Dream."

(This is Part 1 of 2.... Part 2 will launch Season 2 of Rules of the Game!)

For the Growing Pains Podcast, go here:
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