As thousands of delegates gather for this week's COP-30 climate summit in Brazil, the stand-off over next year's host city continues — with no agreement yet on whether Australia or Turkiye will stage COP-31. Adelaide is Australia's preferred choice, backed by the Federal and South Australian governments as part of a joint Australia-Pacific bid — despite debate over the financial costs and benefits.Guest: Mike Copage, Director of CoTerran, a new climate and security consultancy, and former head of ASPI's Climate & Security Policy CentreProducer: Anne Barker

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