Daniel Leader is founder of Bread Alone Bakery and author of three outstanding books on bread and bakeries (in addition to being one of Mark's baking heroes!) His latest book, Living Bread, continues to inform local bakers via innovations in European baking and milling. In this episode, Mark and Daniel talk about the struggles the current micro-bakers face as they build businesses for the long term, in the context of the innovation he's seen in Europe. It's a challenging and compelling talk.   Helpful Links: Daniel's Book:  Living Bread Daniel Leader's website @danmakesbread on Instagram --- Bread Alone Bakery @breadalonebakery on Instagram --- Rise Up! The Baker Podcast website The Bakers4Bakers Community Mark's Blog, with the Bakernomics series Mark on Instagram Credits: Produced and hosted by Mark Dyck Theme song and music by Robyn Dyck Orange Boot Human logo by Fred Reibin

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