How do we make sense of the chaos Donald Trump's election interference trial? To help us find clarity Rick welcomes Norm Eisen, a CNN commentator and the author of "Trying Trump." Eisen provides an insider's look into Donald Trump's first election interference criminal trial, offering detailed observations from his frequent visits to the courtroom. The discussion dives into the legal strategies and courtroom dynamics, particularly focusing on the impact of key testimonies and the prosecution's approach. Together they explore the broader implications of the trial on American democracy and the rule of law, discussing potential outcomes and the political landscape.

Timestamps:
(00:01:59) Seeing Trump everyday
(00:11:05) Will he end up in jail?
(00:17:03) How do we undo Trump's example?

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