In this episode of Restoring Our Roots, host Larry Norris sits down with Del Jolly for a powerful conversation on what it truly means to live and lead from the heart. Del shares his journey working with entheogens, exploring how these sacred medicines can support personal transformation, emotional intelligence, and optimized living when approached with intention and respect.Together, Larry and Del dive into:What it means to be heart-centered in a world driven by urgency and distractionHow entheogens can support alignment, clarity, and grounded leadershipThe difference between optimization as hustle-culture vs. optimization as inner coherenceStorytelling as a tool for healing and shifting cultural narrativesThe importance of community, integrity, and reciprocity in modern entheogenic workThis episode invites listeners to rethink “optimization” not as performance-pressure, but as a path toward wholeness, balance, and connection to self.Tune in for a grounded, insightful, and inspiring dialogue that bridges ancient plant wisdom with the contemporary movement for personal and collective healing.

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