Chris: So let's start with how we've gotten here. With digital systems accounting for 60% of global GDP, how do we still not have requirements or adoption of cyber expertise on public board?Nikki: You mention in your article about the SEC mandating cyber leadership into board rooms - do you think that the type of experience expected on boards should be geared specifically to risk management, or a mix of highly technical and governance experience?Chris: For those looking to fill some of those upcoming board opportunities, what recommendations do you have?Nikki: For your book the Great Reboot - you recommend that not only leadership but employees read it as well - do you think there's a gap in knowledge or maybe awareness of how risk impacts the business from a practitioner level? Would you encourage junior and senior personnel to read this book?Chris: On the flip side, for boards and publicly traded companies looking to bring cyber expertise into the fold, what competencies and skills should they be looking for? Where do they start?Nikki: Risk is bigger than one vulnerability or one misconfiguration but can have a number of definitions - how do you define risk management and do you think there's a need to define 'risk' more aptly in organizations?Chris: You often speak about systemic risk. Do you think the modern digitally driven economy and ecosystem is inherently insecure and vulnerable? 

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