Rifa and Chris waffle on about their week in the arts, culture, tech and inclusivity.

Episode #11 is a bit more highfalutin than usual. Rifa gets invited to the Woman Of The Year Awards and brings home a bulging goodie bag, while Chris stays in with new Netflix' new Paul Greengrass film 22 July.

Then they also go to Convivial Tools one-day symposium, inspired by Ivan Illich, which takes place at the Design Museum.

In What You Reading For? Chris has gone back to Ivan Illich's classic 1970s books, in particular Tools For Conviviality. Rifa is reading The Kindness Method by Shahroo Izadi.

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