Sarah Couture is Florida State Director of the Fines and Fees Justice Center (FFJC), a national advocacy center dedicated to solving the unjust imposition of fines and fees in the criminal legal system.  Sarah describes how fines and fees perpetuate a poverty-to-prison pipeline, reinforcing a cycle of recidivism and dependency that forces people to make unfair choices about driving and compliance with court-ordered payment schemes.  Sarah and Thad discuss how this payment system impacts communities of poverty, reflecting a criminal justice system that appears systemically biased against people of color.

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