Did you know that the landscape of job searching is changing rapidly? Big companies and their strict rules are becoming less popular. This shift has sped up because of big changes like the pandemic. The pandemic showed us that working from home can work well. At the same time, technology, especially AI, is making job searches easier and faster.
Today on "Recruiting is No Joke," we welcome Serge Boudreau and  Shelley Billinghurst from the "Recruitment Flex" podcast. The conversation delves into the intricacies of the recruitment industry, the importance of mentorship, and the evolving dynamics of the job search process
During the conversation, they discuss their professional backgrounds, their work at Hire Value, and the importance of mentorship and relationships in business. Shelley and Serge share insights on starting a business, the evolving job search process, and the impact of technology and parental involvement in interviews. They also touch on the power shift towards job seekers and the rise of remote work and the gig economy. Shelley discusses the significant power shift to job seekers in 2021 and 2022, driven by the rise of remote work and the gig economy. However, she noted that the traditional corporate grind still holds sway in many companies.
The conversation provides valuable insights into the recruitment industry, the importance of mentorship, and the evolving dynamics of the job search process.
In this episode:

[00:37] Introduction to Serge Boudreau & Shelley Billinghurst

[01:25] Shelley’s background and podcast origin

[02:28] Serge's background and podcast origin

[05:09] Podcast growth and authenticity

[05:59] Hosting events and industry relationships

[08:58] Collaboration and business expansion

[13:59] Advice for starting a business

[16:21] Importance of real relationships

[17:49] Entrepreneurial coaching and advice

[20:14] The importance of empathy for job seekers

[21:24] Challenges faced by recruiters and job seekers

[24:09] Use of technology in job interviews

[25:52] Impact of AI on job interviews and assessments

[30:12] AI auto apply tools and their impact

[34:39] Challenges in recruitment marketing and candidate screening

[36:39] Involvement of parents in job interviews

[40:57] The thank you note debate

[46:09] Shift away from corporate grin

[51:53] Impact of pandemic on work preferences

[53:32] Viral sensation and online attention

About Joel Lalgee 
Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.
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About Our Guests
Shelley Billinghurst, CEO & Founder of Hire Value, boasts over 25 years of expertise in recruitment, with a deep understanding of provincial, national, and global labor markets. She spearheads digital recruitment marketing and co-hosts The Recruitment Flex Podcast, recognized as a TATech Top 40 Honoree (2024) and a Top 100 Most Influential Thought Leader (2023).
Serge Boudreau, a 25-year Talent Acquisition leader, excels in TA technology and recruitment marketing. As VP for Growth at Hire Value and co-host of *The Recruitment Flex Podcast*, he's a TA Tech Top 100 Influential Thought Leader.
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