Things kick off with some sundry food talk. John shows no interest in party-cut pizza or fruit juice concentrates, and Merlin identifies a perplexing class of food that's made of the wrong food.

Follow-up brings updates on how John tries to make his app play nice with macOS weirdness, and there's some important reconsideration regarding what Larry Mullen, Jr. actually said about the location where The King was laid to rest.

Speaking of music, with pretty much zero provocation, Merlin launches into a jeremiad about a pet peeve with bad needle drops. What a waste.

Finally, your hosts talk about the movie, *Gattaca* (1997). John saw it a long time ago, and Merlin has watched it most of the way through.

Which is just to get to the **actual** point: how would your hosts approach teaching the other to _be_ them?

John dutifully lays out a bulleted list of items Merlin needs to immediately start changing about himself.

(_Recorded on Tuesday, May 16, 2023_)

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