“I have closed novels and stared at their back covers for a long moment and felt known in a way I cannot honestly say I have felt known by many real-life interactions with human beings, or even by myself.” ~ Zadie Smith On this week’s episode of Real Ballers Read, we dive into one of the most thought-provoking essays by the brilliant Zadie Smith, “Fascinated to Presume: In Defense of Fiction”. Here’s a fun contribution to the conversation started by @booksarepopculture on Black bookstagram’s preference for fiction or nonfiction. What’s your go-to genre?? The bros got a whole *concept map* of all the connections we made to Zadie Smith’s essay. This was a fun conversation that somehow covered bell hooks, Toni Morrison, Captain Underpants and the new culture wars in the same episode. Tune in wherever you listen to podcasts. . . . 

2:57 The Story Behind this episode
7:42 The first paragraph of “Fascinated to Presume”
9:24 Having fluid or “inconsistent” personalities
10:56 Ways we’ve felt more secure
12:26 Relating to fictional characters
13:34 To Kill A Mockingbird
16:05 Your Blues Ain’t Like Mine
19:36 Feeling seen by people vs. books
21:52 What happens to people when the news cameras leave?
23:47 The Dance of Human Interaction and its absence in reading
26:27 Trick Mirror
28:16 The Potential for Radical Change
32:44 American Dirt
38:02 Is it irresponsible to write from someone else’s point of view?
42:10 What does harm mean in a literary sense?
46:41 Trigger warnings at the start of books?
47:31 Sisters of the Yam by bell hooks
52:18 Stanley Crouch
54:16 John Howard Griffin and Black Like Me
55:45 Limits of empathy
57:38 The illusion of the self
59:30 Reading as a writer vs. as a casual reader
1:01 Consumerism as an identity
1:06 The Reader decides to believe or not
1:07 What we want from good fiction
1:14 Difference between acting and writing
1:16 Cultural Appropriation as a verbal container
1:23 Does this essay convince us to classics?
1:31 Hector Abad quote

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