New Podcast Episode: Flying Boats and Underwater Drones

Rational Optimist Podcast
16/06/2025 42 min
New Podcast Episode: Flying Boats and Underwater Drones

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I recently spoke with two young founders driving the ocean’s future: Will O'Brien from Ulysses Ecosystem Engineering and David Zagaynov from Poseidon Aerospace. They’re building high-tech flying boats and underwater drones while stewarding the ocean. 

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