For many, birth and pregnancy is a time for anticipation, celebration and joy. But for one in five parents, behind the tired smiles and exhausted faces lies a silent sea of anxiety and depression.Episode Four cuts through this silence.  We speak with Jo about her unexpected descent into postnatal depression with the arrival of her second son, and her pathway to recovery. We chat with perinatal mental health expert, clinical psychologist Hannah Jensen, about one of the biggest developmental leaps  in life, the transition into motherhood.  We explore the difference between baby blues and a post natal mental illness, what red flags to look out for,  risk factors such as birth trauma, and impact on parenting.  We talk about how to get help.Most importantly we normalise this conversation and de-stigmatise this experience so our community can recognise and effectively respond to mental illness in and around pregnancy.

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