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Episode Synopsis
0:00: Host Andrew Vosko welcomes guest Lori Anne Ferrell, dean of the School of Arts & Humanities.4:22: Lori Anne describes coming to transdisciplinarity from her background in history, religious studies, and English.7:10: Andrew connects the value of historians and historians to the importance of temporal thinking.8:50: Lori Anne and Andrew talk about the humility required of the historian and transdisciplinarian and the danger of assuming that they are wiser and smarter than people of past eras. Lori Anne describes eras of the past as foreign cultures. 11:18: Lori Anne talks about the value of historians in collaborative and business contexts.13:17: Andrew talks about design thinking and the skill set of the historian.16:30: Lori Anne elaborates on the value of humanists in entrepreneurial settings and on collaborations with the Peter F. Drucker and Masatoshi Ito Graduate School of Management.20:00: Andrew and Lori Anne discuss the integration of the arts and sciences through design thinking.26:10: Andrew and Lori Anne discuss the challenges of managing new technologies, such as ChatGPT, and the conceptual advantage of humanists.33:10: Lori Anne and Andrew elaborate on temporal, linear, and cyclical modes of thought, plus the necessity of historical thinking in successful transdisciplinary work.40:30: Andrew talks about design thinking as a way of managing complexity.41:18: Andrew talks about the term wicked problems and its centrality to transdisciplinary work.45:45: Andrew and Lori Anne discuss the need for multiple types of humility: epistemological, axiological, etc., and the kind of humility required for collaborating with those with whom we may disagree.47:42: Andrew discusses the challenge of collaboration across different points of view as the metaphysics of dilemma.54:13: Andrew responds to Lori Anne’s question on transdisciplinary thought’s engagement with religion.
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