Brad and John discuss with Andy Crouch the importance of institutions and the decline of institutionalism in society. Crouch highlights the denial of power in Christian circles and the rise of social media as a counterfeit institution. The influence of social media on honor and shame dynamics is explored, as well as the loss of forgiveness and humility in society. The conversation explores the language of shame and victimhood, particularly in the context of political discussions. The cross is shown to be way out of victimhood, offering a path of forgiveness and redemption. The power of friendship and hospitality is discussed as a means of building meaningful connections and creating lasting change. Finally, the need for trust and thread to build institutions is explored, emphasizing the importance of long-term thinking and investment.

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