Ian sits down with Shafqat Islam, President, Optimizely. They dive into AI, GEO, and the future role of websites. They also talk about how experimentation and creativity give companies the competitive edge in the current marketing landscape.Key Takeaways:Your content needs to provide scarcity value to stand out. People and LLMs want original ideas.Most CMOs are not experimenting enough, and are not being creative enough. Experimentation is key.Many SEO tactics will work for GEO, and the harsh truth is that a lot of SEO content did not move the needle anyway.Quote: “ Everyone should be testing. Testing allows you to be more creative.Take bigger bets, be bolder. If your bet is huge, and the return and the result is huge, it's totally disproportionate, upside uncapped. Frankly, most marketers are afraid.”Episode Timestamps: 01:56 The Role of Product and Marketing03:09 Origins and Evolution of Opal10:51 Creativity in Marketing and Software13:44 The Importance of Experimentation19:40 Storytelling and Risk-Taking in Marketing23:21 The Rise of AI and Podcasting28:03 Generative Engine Optimization (GEO)29:31 Websites' New Dual Role32:34 The Studio Head Approach to Marketing38:12 The Impact of AI on Creativity40:09 The Future of Search and MarketingSponsor:Pipeline Visionaries is brought to you by Qualified.com. Qualified helps you turn your website into a pipeline generation machine with PipelineAI. Engage and convert your most valuable website visitors with live chat, chatbots, meeting scheduling, intent data, and Piper, your AI SDR. Visit Qualified.com to learn more.Links:Connect with Ian on LinkedInConnect with Shaf on LinkedInLearn more about OptimizelyLearn more about  Caspian Studios Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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