In this episode of Pay Attention, host Holly McNeill reflects on her personal journey, from transitioning out of her architecture career to creating a community centered around mindfulness. She shares how these experiences led her to contemplate the importance of connection in a world increasingly divided, touching on the challenges of her separation from her partner and the rebuilding of her relationship with her children. Holly explores how her devotion to her children ultimately caused her to alienate herself, and how this sense of isolation parallels the divisiveness witnessed in society, particularly in the wake of the California wildfires. Instead of succumbing to fear and blame, Holly asks a simple yet powerful question: Where is the kindness? The humanity? In this heartfelt episode, she reflects on the lessons she has learned in overcoming alienation and offers strategies for finding resilience and connection in difficult times.

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