It’s not lost on us that we are taking a more unique approach to the second Trump administration than many other creators. On today’s show, Sarah and Beth explain some of the thinking behind their approach - including why we want to make space for conversations like the next one on today’s show. We share a fabulous conversation with Jane Perlez about China - its economy, its use of surveillance techniques, and its potential future. Plus, it’s Valentine’s Day, so outside of politics, we’re talking romance! Topics Discussed Why We’re Talking About China Jane Perlez on China’s Economy, Surveillance, and Future Outside of Politics: Valentine’s Day and Romance Visit our Substack page for complete show notes and episode resources.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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