Nathan and Mondo unpack the tools they carry into every room. For Mondo, it’s story: scenes from movies and TV shows that become anchor points for belief and vision. For Nathan, it’s structure: whiteboards, frameworks, and sharp questions that unlock clarity. Then they get honest about the cultural pressures that have shaped their identities. Nathan unpacks the tension of growing up with unchosen expectations around race, gender, religion, and leadership, and Mondo opens up about wrestling with his own “prodigal son” standards, and the moment his faith reframed race entirely. If you want more like this, subscribe or find more on Howtobesecond.comThis is One Second, a conversation between two people with wildly different identities where we're exploring how we're different while embracing that we're better together. In our vernacular at How to be Second, I am a Second, and my co-host Armando Davison, is what we call a natural 1iC, or a Visionary. Enjoy.

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