Episode 34: The Divine Messiah: A Conversation with Dr. Ruben Bühner

12/02/2024 1h 12min

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Summary
Dr. Reuben Bühner discusses his research on messianism in his book Messianic High Christology. He argues that the New Testament authors' understanding of Jesus' divinity fits within the broader contours of Jewish messianism. He distinguishes his approach from other scholars who focus on specific criteria for high Christology. He explores the use of texts like the Philippians hymn and Psalm 110 in the New Testament, highlighting their connection to Second Temple messianic discourse. He also examines the significance of Daniel 7 and its influence on New Testament Christology. In this conversation, Max and Ruben Bühner discuss various aspects of Messianism and Christology in the New Testament. They explore the titles of Son of God and Son of Man, highlighting the different meanings and contexts in which they are used. They also delve into the connection between the virgin birth and Messianism, examining how the idea of divine sonship relates to the concept of a virgin birth. The conversation then turns to Jesus as the Logos, the Word of God, and the unique Christological ideas presented in the Gospel of John. Finally, they discuss the relationship between early Christology in the New Testament and the creedal Christologies that developed in subsequent centuries.

Takeaways
- The New Testament authors' understanding of Jesus' divinity fits within the broader contours of Jewish messianism.
- The use of specific criteria for high Christology can be limiting and may not capture the full complexity of Second Temple monotheism.
-Texts like the Philippians hymn and Psalm 110 are used in the New Testament to illustrate the divinity and exaltation of Jesus.
- The reception history of texts like Daniel 7 and Psalm 110 in Second Temple Judaism informs the New Testament authors' understanding of Jesus' identity.
- The New Testament authors' use of messianic texts demonstrates a continuity with Second Temple Jewish thought.
- The titles Son of God and Son of Man have different meanings and contexts in the New Testament, with Son of God often referring to a mundane ruler and Son of Man pointing to an exalted figure with divine characteristics.
- The virgin birth in the New Testament is not directly connected to Messianism in Second - Temple Jewish texts, but it is an innovative idea that is still within the reach of Second Temple Messianic discourse.
- The Gospel of John presents a unique and innovative high Christology, identifying Jesus as the Logos, the Word of God. While this concept is not found in other Second Temple Messianic texts, it still connects to the broader Messianic discourse.
- The development of creedal Christologies in the subsequent centuries reflects a different cultural context and worldview, but the authors of these creeds were faithful exegetes who sought to answer fundamental questions in light of their own understanding.

Ruben A. Bühner is a Postdoctoral Fellow at the University of Bonn (Germany) and lecturer at the University of Würzburg (Germany) and Zurich. He received the Manfred Lautenschlaeger Award for Theological Promise 2021 (Heidelberg) for his dissertation and the Young Scientist Prize 2020 from the Center for the Study of Antiquity (Zurich). His field of research includes Second Temple messianism, early Christology and the Pauline letters in the context of Jewish thought and practice. https://uni-bonn.academia.edu/RubenBühner

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