What makes a church truly healthy—and when is it time to walk away? In this powerful and unflinchingly honest episode of Compassion International's Nuance series. In this episode, NBA chaplain and senior pastor Kenneth Lock joins author and speaker Julie Lyles Carr to tackle some of the most difficult questions Christians face about the modern church.Together, they explore what it means for a church to be spiritually healthy or bankrupt, the fine line between biblical teaching and burnout, and how we sometimes idolize both community and comfort. With humor, grace, and depth, they wrestle with questions like: Should we hold church leaders to a higher standard? Is it ever holy to leave a church? And how do we build communities that form real disciples, not just loyal attendees?Whether you’ve been hurt by the church or love it deeply—and especially if you feel both—this episode will leave you challenged, encouraged, and hopeful about what the Church is and what it can become.Subscribe for more conversations like this—new episodes every week at: Compassion.com/UntoJesus

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