"I'm really interested in this idea in spiritual education. And we don't we say it, but we don't really engage with it in schools. And when I have talked about it, people get a little bit kind of itchy."In this wide ranging conversation, Angie talks to Rebecca Leek about how her faith as a Quaker informs her teaching, why schools in Britain don't engage well with faith, sexism in British culture, and the challenge of being neurodivergent and contentious in the education system.Rebecca Leek is an experienced strategic leader who has worked across a wide range of settings and organisations. She has been a headteacher, executive headteacher, chief executive, a teacher and a Senco. She is a systems thinker, an innovator, and has been described as 'a harbinger of light'. She is increasingly in demand as a speaker, trainer and writer and brings with her a wealth of knowledge and insight from her involvement in a number of sectors including the arts, social enterprise, communications, permaculture and education.Rebecca describes herself as a holistic leader and is interested in systems and cybernetics (governance and management), belonging, and spiritual sustenance within schools. Her practice as a permaculturist informs much of what she does, and in particular the principles of valuing diversity and the marginal.Find Rebecca on Twitter @RebeccaLeek_Connect with Angie on her website - www.angelabrowne.co.ukA full transcript of this episode can be found at https://being-luminary.simplecast.com/episodes/in-conversation-with-rebecca-leekThis podcast was written and presented by Angie Browne. Original music was by Martin Austwick. The series is edited and produced by Big Tent Media and Emily Crosby Media.

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