Well, friends, this one jumps right in. No fluff. No fanfare. Just two pastors mid-stream, wrestling out loud about the sacred, the cosmic, and the painfully personal. This week on No BS Bishop, I sit down with Pastor Justin Arnold in the church basement—with coffee in hand and hearts wide open—to talk about what it means to follow Jesus in 2025.We get raw. We get real. We discuss the atomic interconnectedness of Christ and the crash test dummy wall that the church has hit. We unpack racism, LGBTQ+ inclusion, tribalism, Constantine, and even yard signs—yes, literal signs in the front lawn—and how our kids can sometimes see the Gospel better than we do.Pastor Justin doesn't hold back. He talks about the real cost of love: not love as cheap sentiment or easy slogans, but the kind of love that incarnates. That walks across the chasm. That listens. That suffers. That lays down its life. You know—the Jesus kind.And yeah, we talk about truth. But not the weaponized version that gets flung in Facebook DMs with all-caps and no context. We’re talking about truth rooted in mercy. Truth Pastor Justin reminds me why I have hope. He’s doing the work. The hard, slow, relational, incarnational work. And in this episode, I pass him the torch and ask what will you do with it?This one’s not a period, it’s a dot. Just a continuation. So pour a cup of something warm and settle in. Because the way forward isn’t through shouting across the void. It’s through eye contact. Coffee. And a little No BS.And if this kind of conversation stirs your spirit and your soul, consider supporting the show so we can keep bringing these voices to the table:paypal.me/randydeanministriesUntil next time,I’m the No BS Bishop—alive to love.Because all lesser values than love?They devolve into BS. Let’s not go there.Let’s do something beautiful.Ugly has had its day.

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