In this episode, Jeremy Rochford sits down with therapist-turned-coach Barbara Grant for a candid, grounded conversation about a question many couples and individuals silently wrestle with: What’s the real difference between counseling and coaching—and how do I know which one I need? Barbara breaks down the distinction with refreshing simplicity. Counseling, she explains, is about healing what’s been wounded, untangling old stories, and creating emotional stability. Coaching, on the other hand, is forward-focused—designed to help you build skills, apply tools, and create momentum toward who you’re becoming. Together, they peel back the misconceptions, including why coaching isn’t “therapy lite” and why counseling isn’t just for crisis.From there, Jeremy and Barbara explore how to get the absolute best out of coaching—especially if you’re wired neurodivergently or navigating a mixed-neurotype marriage. They talk about the importance of setting realistic goals, naming the problem you want solved, and showing up with both honesty and curiosity. Barbara shares practical tips for maximizing sessions, from embracing accountability to resisting the urge to people-please your coach. Jeremy adds his own lived experience from both sides of the table, reminding listeners that coaching works best when you’re willing to experiment, self-reflect, and take small, brave steps between sessions. Whether you’re on the edge of starting coaching or simply trying to understand the landscape, this conversation gives you a roadmap that feels both doable and empowering.To learn more about Barbara Grant, you can find her at https://bg-hc.com/To learn more about NeuroFam, please check out https://www.ourneurofam.com/  To send us an email or question- shoot a message to [email protected]   Music for the show’s intro is provided (with permission) by Matt Langston & EleventySeven. You can check out their awesome stuff here - https://www.eleventysevenisalive.com/ Music for the show’s outro is provided (with permission) by Sean Rogers & Shineunder. The band doesn’t exist anymore, but Sean is still doing great work and can be found here - https://heyworldcreative.com/

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