In this conversation, Gene discusses the importance of true leadership, the approach to teaching healthy masculinity beyond the physical, and personal experiences. He emphasizes the impact of one's actions on children and the need for healthy boundaries as Christians. In addition, a challenge is placed to all men to rise up to the tier they have been called to be. TAKEAWAYS: Being a gentle-man is just as important as being a authoritative man. Masculinity encompasses both physical and spiritual aspects. Children learn from the actions of their parents. Setting boundaries is important. Excessive drinking can negatively affect the household. It's essential to lead by example for future generations. Freedom from struggles is possible with support.

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