What if peacemaking meant moving into people’s lives instead of waiting for them to come to the table? In this profound conversation, renowned peacemaker Dr. John Paul Lederach shares how presence, story, and deep listening can transform conflict—and why this “circulation” approach looks a lot like Jesus.02:29 John Paul Lederach’s journey with conflict transformation07:48 How do we approach conflict today?10:01 Humiliation and dehumanization12:20 The way of Jesus with conflict16:01 A story from Maze prison in Belfast19:25 What formation is needed? Looking at Defensiveness24:52 The Pause of Curiosity26:16 The Vocational Pause30:22 Fixing conflict vs. wounded companions36:58 This moment in time?42:29 Hope in the Everyday and the Local46:28 Circulatory Approach48:24 Learning from insects55:31 Deepening in circles vs. linear “fixing59:49 Jesus’ circulatory “along the way” ministry01:02:23 Final encouragement01:07:49 Closing reflection

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