Conflict can strengthen relationships—if handled well. Nina Barnes shares why avoiding conflict causes more harm, how to tell the truth with kindness (not just niceness!), and why “agreeing to disagree” isn’t always the answer. Learn strategies for turning conflict into deeper connection.This episode kicks off the newly relaunched Mending Divides Podcast, where Dr. Jer Swigart has unfiltered conversations about conflict—what it is, why it matters, and how to navigate it well—with those who think deeply about it.Chapters01:00 Start01:34 Conflict is inevitable04:43 Conflict styles06:36 Conflict as an opportunity09:15 Suspicion in the Absence of Conflict10:53 Conflict is modeled for us15:48 Nina’s Direct Conflict Style16:50 Niceness vs. Kindness21:17 Truth-telling with Kindness: What’s the Goal?26:30 Getting Practical - How to do this32:54 Agree to Disagree?36:56 Dehumanization is “the line”42:53 A Real Life Story50:56 Invitations58:32 ClosingGuest bio: Nina Barnes Nina Barnes is a Spiritual Director, the Founder of Transforming Journey, and a featured faculty member of Global Immersion’s Leadership Cohort. She is a seasoned leader who spends her life accompanying Reconciling Leaders as they grow their cultural awareness, resilience, and prophetic witness. Nina's Website Mentioned in this episode:Become an EmberEMBERS is our community of investors and partners committed to igniting and fueling the Everyday Peacemaking movement. Through their continued monthly support, EMBERS members accompany us in our work of forming Everyday Peacemakers and Reconciling Leaders to mend divides. Donate - Embers

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