In this Socratic Hour, I'm joined by podcaster and author Spencer Klavan. Spencer earned his Ph.D. in ancient Greek literature from Oxford, making him a perfect guest to talk about thumos (the chest). He is also the creator of a new Tolkienesque language for the upcoming show "The Pendragon Cycle" from the Daily Wire. We discuss the chest, education, the importance of language, art's relation to morality, the Great War between Lewis and Barfield, and more in this dynamic episode. You can interact with the show on Instagram or Twitter @menwchestsSpencer's podcast Young Heretics: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/young-heretics/id1513602173Spencer's book How to Save the West: https://a.co/d/3d72FGP

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