Finding your way through the music business when you are just getting started can be a bit puzzling. When Caroline Kid met McMahon at a songwriter panel a few years ago, the two quickly became friends as well as musical collaborators. In this episode, the two talk about how she found her way to her first "four songs," her first EP project (Caroline Kid), and how she has started to figure out how to "be doing music" ... sometimes with McMahon "sending the elevator back down." The two also perform together for an intimate piano take of her first single, "Wyoming."

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