"I have a really weird background for a marketer..." As I sat with Ty Shay, hearing about his career path—from Wall Street to P&G to launching Hotwire.com to now, Global CMO for one of the largest Cybersecurity companies in the world—I was reminded that sometimes taking the not-so-obvious path gets you to exactly where you should be. On this episode, Ty and I discuss the challenge of balancing the art of telling effective brand stories with the measurement science of customer engagement - something he refers to as "performance storytelling". And when it comes to protecting more than 50 million customers from growing cyber crimes, Ty believes using "fear is a very limited way to attract customers", despite the behind-the-scenes action of cyber warfare looking close to what you see in the movies. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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