Why are fewer young people stepping into ministry today? Why does it feel like pastors are burning out, retiring, or walking away with no one to take their place? In this episode of the March or Die Show, Jeremy Stalnecker and Sean Kennard sit down with Bart Barber, Pastor of First Baptist Farmersville, Texas and former president of the Southern Baptist Convention, to talk honestly about the crisis in pastoral leadership and biblical leadership in general.  Hit Subscribe, share this episode with your community, and drop a comment on what landed hardest for you. Want more reinforcement? Subscribe to our newsletter, The Forward Edge, to go beyond the podcast and dig deeper into these topics and more: https://marchordie.substack.com! Join us daily for encouragement and biblical truth with the Mighty Oaks Daily Devotional, you can sign up for reminders: https://mightyoaksprograms.org/daily-devotional  Follow March or Die:https://instagram.com/MarchOrDie https://Facebook.com/MarchOrDieShow https://TikTok.com/March_or_Die  Follow Jeremy:https://instagram.com/jeremystalnecker https://jeremystalnecker.com  Follow Sean:https://instagram.com/seantopgunkennard https://youtube.com/@SeanTopGunKennard  Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

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